Posts Tagged Guns and Ammunition

Pistols to Carbines

This report about a conversion device that makes a carbine out of a handgun got me to wondering: why?

One of the sales leads for the company which manufactures this thing argues that

“Special operators can carry everything in their rucksack. They don’t have to carry a close quarters/room clearing type of device. Instead they can pull this out of their rucksack, put their pistol in it, and they have a mid-range carbine.”

But it’s not clear to me why carrying the conversion kit makes things easier on a special operations soldier than simply carrying a carbine.  It would not have to be dug out of a rucksack, assembled, and then torn back down at the end of what would might often be a relatively short duration operation: clearing a room or building.  It seems to me that preparing such a conversion might sometimes take longer than the operation itself–or that the soldier might need the carbine quickly, but require precious minutes to put it together.  Perhaps these guys need carbines rather than or in addition to handguns.

This thing cannot be much lighter than the M-16 variants now issued to M1A2 and Stryker crews, among others.  Perhaps someone wants to avoid having to carry more and different types of ammunition, but in that case why not simply develop a carbine which takes 9mm or .45 caliber ammo?  Or a pistol which fires a 7.62?  Make a common round–the Soviets did.

Besides the “cool factor,” I’m not sure how this makes things easier on a soldier.  Click the link and look at the photo–all those parts look harder to clean than a rifle, too.  I say let’s not buy stuff just to buy stuff, but perhaps one of my new gun expert friends can explain it to me.

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Force, Persuasion, and Civilization

In response to my expressed concern that placing “placing the safety and freedom of society in the hands of individuals harms us normatively by making collective action more difficult,” my new friend Bob referred me to “Why the Gun is Civilization” by Marko Kloos.  While somewhat interesting, I think Mr. Kloos greatly oversimplifies both the effect of introducing firearms into human interaction, and the nature of human interaction itself. Read the rest of this entry »

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One Percent Doctrine

Bob S., over at 3BoxesofBS, offers a good illustration of the “one percent doctrine” applied to the carrying by private citizens of personal firearms in public places.  In his book, Suskind argued that the Bush Administration treated threats with even a one percent likelihood as certainties.  Similarly, Bob argues here that his anecdote about a robber beating a woman and stealing her ring shows that he must carry everywhere he goes–because it happened in a nice neighborhood.

This destroys control advocates’ memes, he says, because it shows that one might need a firearm even if they avoid “bad” places.  No one is ever a hundred percent safe–anywhere–so people should arm themselves.

Technically, I suppose, Bob is right: no one is every one hundred percent completely safe, wherever they go and whatever they do (just ask these guys up in Lorton).  But the “gun control memes” “If you live in a good neighborhood, you aren’t likely to need a firearm” and “If you don’t go to bad places, you won’t likely need a firearm” are demonstrably true. Saying they’re not is a bit like saying that everyone must always be prepared to win the lottery–since someone won it just last week.

I’ve spent time in very dangerous places, where we had to keep pretty much constant vigilance when out and about.  I wonder about the mind set of someone who does this all the time, even in his own neighborhood.

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If Deterrence is a Goal…

…then why not make concealed carry permit applications public?

Delegate Lee Ware, a Republican from Virginia’s 65th District (Powhatan and Chesterfield Counties), has proposed legislation that would amend Paragraph 18.2-308 of the Virginia Code to require that clerks taking concealed carry permit applications withhold information about applicants from public disclosure.

One of the interesting things about gun owners and Second Amendment supporters is their apparent reluctance to let their fellow citizens know that they own weapons and carry them on their person in public.  Given that a key argument supporting widespread gun ownership and public carrying of concealed firearms relies on the assertion that this would have some measurable deterrent effect on criminals, it would seem that owners would want others to know that they at least might be carrying.

I haven’t heard Delegate Ware’s argument in support of the bill–it presumably provides some protection against government confiscation, for example–but I can think of at least one argument against it: that fellow citizens, especially neighbors, should have access to some knowledge about which people around them own and carry firearms.

I would like to know, for example, which of my neighbors own weapons, and which of my coworkers have a pistol in a shoulder holster.  Whether or not the gentleman next to me in the pew, working in my kid’s school, or the guy eating wings next to me at the sports bar is armed would be nice to know in the event something takes place that makes the carrier want to use it.  I especially want to know if wings guy is packing when he orders a beer.  This is true whether or not I am armed.

An example which hits close to home, the Virginia Tech shootings back in April 2007, illustrates this well: those who argue that armed students could have limited the tragedy of that day should understand fellow students’ desire to know who else besides the shooter might be armed.  The justice claim of people who wish to arm themselves as they interact with others in public places conflicts with the that of fellow citizens to know which of the people around them might be armed.

Which should precede is another matter.  I am sympathetic with the argument that owners need some protection from government confiscation (though I think that shared understandings about the right, not secrecy, provide protection from this).  But given the relatively low chance of a general federal effort to seize privately owned firearms, I wonder if the people around armed citizens should get more sympathy for their claim: that people who walk around with firearms should have to warn others that a weapon is near.

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More Second Amendment Blogging

Though fairly well-read in constitutional law, history, and political science, I am no expert on the gun rights v. gun control debate.  But since I do have a policy preference with respect to guns, and I intend to involve myself in discussions with people on both sides of this discussion as a way to promote my preferred policy, perhaps I should lay out my thinking on the subject. Read the rest of this entry »

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Blogging the Second Amendment

A few months ago, I stumbled upon a blog called Southern Female Lawyer, written by an East Tennessee attorney who claims to be very liberal, and promises to “judge you when you use poor grammar.”  My kind of woman.

Not long ago, SFL posted an entry [UPDATE: The original post no longer exists] about a man who carried a gun into a grocery store without the proper permits, and apparently without the proper training.  The weapon fell out of his pocket, discharged, and the round struck an employee in the hip.  Southern Female Lawyer thinks this is a bad thing, and told us so.  This, of course, sparked a somewhat heated discussion with a Second Amendment advocate in Texas who calls himself Bob S. and runs a pro-gun blog called 3 Boxes of BS. Hilarity ensued. Read the rest of this entry »

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Jumping to Conclusions

You know that a guy who calls himself the Confederate Yankee has to be a little out there, and you would be right.  Besides the part where he celebrates the treasonous Southern states and their rebellion against the Union while worrying himself over others’ patriotism, he likes to jump to conclusions before he knows all the facts.

Last Monday he did it again, getting all in a high dudgeon over an apparent Department of Defense decision to mutilate spent brass before reselling it.  Turns out that some ammunition makers purchase this stuff by the ton and reload it, which keeps their costs and the price of ammo down.

Mr. Owens worries a lot about the gummint comin’ to get his guns.  This time, however, he did a Chicken Little over ammo, immediately finding an Obama conspiracy to jack the price of ammunition up so high that the revenooers could let him keep his guns–he still wouldn’t be able to shoot down the black helicopters.  He was not alone, and this is one paranoid crowd.

A bit of investigation shows that the original directive applied only to brass sold outside of CONUS, and DoD backed off quickly at any rate.  The most interesting thing about the reaction the gun freaks have to this kind of thing is that they immediately think of conspiracy–none of these guys apparently stopped to think the the US Department of Defense is quite a large organization, and prone to do some pretty stupid shit, often without even thinking about it.  For these guys, this is a direct effort by the liberal President to destroy their ability to keep him from imposing a communist tyranny.  Why Obama would do this and then just change his mind hours later is not clear–he obviously has the power to make this stick.

The best part about these guys and their world view is that they fret constantly–and feverishly, when Democrats have power–about the government imposing tyranny by confiscating their guns, but can’t be bothered to worry about warrantless searches for drugs, wiretapping of virtually every phone call or email that passes through the US, or the CIA simply kidnapping people, putting them on airplanes, and flying them off to a black site in Poland to be tortured.

So far no update to reflect the change of plans by DoD.  This is the kind of thing that gets him on the Whack Job list.

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